Thursday, June 02, 2005

Me or I: A Grammar Pet Peeve

I hear and see this a lot in daily conversation, on TV, people's blogs, in magazines, newspapers, internet news -- just about everywhere and it drives me nuts! What's even worse is that this is supposed to be so simple; a no-brainer; common sense. Well, it appears common sense is not so common afterall.

The issue: When is it grammatically correct to use "me" instead of "I" and vice versa?

Let's discuss:
Case 1:
"I'm thankful to those who helped my brother and I." - INCORRECT
"I'm thankful to those who helped my brother and me." - CORRECT
Case 2:
"It's been a while since my brother and me visited our parents." - INCORRECT
"It's been a while since my brother and I visited our parents." - CORRECT

Simple tips on how to determine which one you should use:
Tip #1: Put the "I" or "me" before the "my brother" (or "my husband" or "my friend", etc...)
Case 1:
"I'm thankful to those who helped I and my brother." -- doesn't sound so right anymore, does it?
"I'm thankful to those who helped me and my brother." - still correct; sounds correct because it is correct!
Case 2:
"It's been a while since me and my brother visited our parents." -- doesn't sound quite so right anymore, does it?
"It's been a while since I and my brother visited our parents." -- still correct; sounds correct because it is correct!

Tip #2: Simply drop the "my brother" or "my husband" or "my anything" off the statement.
Case 1:
"I'm thankful to those who helped I." -- now it's even more obvious that it's incorrect!
"I'm thankful to those who helped me." - better? Better!
Case 2
"It's been a while since me visited our parents." - now it's even more obvious that it's incorrect!
"It's been a while since I visited our parents." - no doubt now that this is the correct one.

Tip #3: Replacement with "us" and "we". This is a very easy replacement rule to correct the usage of "me" or "I":
RULE 1: [WE = somebody and I]
RULE 2: [US = somebody and me]
Using these replacement rules, you can check the correctness of your usage of "me" or "I"
Case 1:
"I'm thankful to those who helped us." - obviously CORRECT
"I'm thankful to those who helped we." - obviously INCORRECT
so by simple replacement we know that the following are true:
"I'm thankful to those who helped my brother and me." - CORRECT
"I'm thankful to those who helped my brother and I." - INCORRECT
Case 2
"It's been a while since we visited our parents." - CORRECT
"It's been a while since us visited our parents." - INCORRECT
so by simple replacement we know that the following are true:
"It's been a while since my brother and I visited our parents." - CORRECT
"It's been a while since my brother and me visited our parents." - INCORRECT

In closing, here are a few important (common sense) points:
- If it's incorrect when used by itself, then it must not be right when compounded.
- Use "I" if the pronoun is the subject of the sentence.
- Use "me" if used as part of an object in a sentence or if it is implied by an object. An "object" is easy to spot. They always begin with "to", "with", "for", "that", "about", etc...

I was at a gathering a few months back and I overheard a guy saying to a girl, "So, let's talk about you and I...", it took all my strenght not to approach them and correct the guy and tell him that the correct usage is "me" and not "I". If I were the girl, I would probably have responded with "I feel weird talking about I and you but sure we can talk about me and you."

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"...and the final is me!" - from a letter found at a bar.

"Common sense is not so common" - a Voltair quote that's printed on a cute green shirt that I got from YRYS a couple of years ago. The words are in a crossword puzzle-like design.

I'm usually not a grammar freak. I don't usually care. Heck, I even have my occasional grammar blunders too but I just couldn't pass this one up because of its simplicity. It just really bugs me so!

9 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

so which is it, are they ON the bus or IN the bus??? he he he...

girl, you're going to turn off guys if you correct their grammar when they hit on you! ha ha ha!

Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:30:00 PM  
Blogger Cris said...

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Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:33:00 PM  
Blogger Cris said...

ON the bus!!! Ang kulit naman e!

Well if the guy is cute then I'll let it pass. Otherwise this is the perfect way to turn 'em off! HAHA!

Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh gosh, thanks for writing about this. It's also my worst grammar pet peeve. I was watching this reality show on TV and this one contestant kept using "...and I" in sentences that should use "... and me". Nakaka-irita!

By further observation, it seems that in sentences where the [somebody] preceeds the "and I/me", people tend to use "I" and they don't bother to check correct usage first. It just comes automatically for them to use "[somebody] and I".

But in sentences where the "I/me" preceeds the [and somebody], the usage of "I" or "me" is usually correct.

Lastly, R, it's ON THE BUS! But "in the bus" is usually forgivable.

Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cris, very good article. You have a way of presenting seemingly complex topics in simpler ways that people can "get" right away and can never refute! HA! HA! HA! I especially like the "case-study-type" presentation of your arguments because that way people can see all proofs in every angle of the subject. And because of this it's going to be hard to refute your arguments. Believe me I tried.

Ever thought about being a teacher, esp of Mathematics? Maybe if you taught it the way you "teach" grammar, I'll finally be able to understand what the heck those theorems blah blah are.

Amanda, That's a very good observation. I fall victim to this all the time. I never think when using __ and I!

Lastly, R, it is ON THE BUS!

Friday, June 03, 2005 2:43:00 PM  
Blogger Cris said...

Amanda, I think I know which reality show you're talking about and which of the "stars" of that show you're referring to because I saw that too. In fact, it was the final straw! After seeing that I couldn't help it anymore, I just had to write about it. HAHA!

Emily, thanks for posting a comment on this topic. I don't know about "teaching". I did enjoy it when I did it very briefly at a University but I guess it's just not my thing. Anywa, it's really nice to meet you (on jarchives?!). I'll talk to you soon.

Monday, June 06, 2005 4:49:00 PM  
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